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On this page, users can ask for a deleted page or file (hereafter, "file") to be restored. Users can comment on requests by leaving remarks such as keep deleted or undelete along with their reasoning.

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To assist discussion

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Current requests

File:Nahashogyoseimon.png

こちらの写真は私が撮影・編集したものです。 最初にアップロードした際は著作者の記名を忘れおり、削除されてしまったので再アップロードしました。そのことにつきましては注意等を十分に確認しておらず大変申し訳ありませんでした。 今後はこういうことがないように十分注意します。 この写真は私が撮影・編集したものですので問題はありません。ですのでファイルの復元をお願いします。

This photo was taken and edited by me. When I first uploaded it, I forgot the author's name and it was deleted, so I re-uploaded it. I am very sorry that I did not fully check the instructions. I'll be very careful not to let this happen again. This picture was taken and edited by me, so there is no problem. So please restore the file.

（たいやき部屋 (talk) 07:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)）[reply]

@たいやき部屋: Hi, You were asked to upload the original image with EXIF data. Why can't you do that? Yann (talk) 09:41, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Where should I upload my original images?
Can't I use the image edited for personal information protection? たいやき部屋 (talk) 10:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I understood what you were saying.
Upload it the appropriate way. たいやき部屋 (talk) 12:54, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think we can close this. A new file is at File:NahaCommercialHighSchool.jpg, and I think that makes undeletion unnecessary. whym (talk) 07:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Photographs by Pavel Troshkin

Images were published after 2015, expiration of posthumous copyright protection of photographer after death, or before 1954. Overly hypothetical doubts by now-banned user who made many overzealous deletion requests. Kges1901 (talk) 18:16, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Oppose As I noted in the DR, these are either under URAA copyright, as are all Russian images published after 1942, or, if unpublished until recently, are under copyright in Russia. In either case we cannot keep them. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 16:16, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We usually assume that old works were published at the time of creation, unless evidence says otherwise. If I understood correctly, the author was a reporter for RIAN, so I see no reason to assume that these pictures were not published at the time. The first file in the list, File:Сессия Верховного Совета СССР первого созыва (2).jpg, is dated 1938. That may not be sufficient for all images, but it seems OK for this one. Yann (talk) 20:10, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Troshkin was a reporter for the newspaper Izvestiya, and his photographs were published at the time in Izvestiya, Krasnaya Zvezda, and other papers. --Kges1901 (talk) 20:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Carl Lindberg also made an interesting argument about the country of origin. If these newspapers were distributed in the Soviet Union, they were simultaneously published in all successor nations, and that under the Berne Convention, the shorter term applies. Yann (talk) 20:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These newspapers were distributed across the entire Soviet Union, not just on the territory of the RSFSR. In any case, the definition of publication under Russian copyright law is that the back of the photograph was marked by the artist in the appropriate way, which for war photographs implies that it passed through censorship processes and could be published. Since most of these photographs are not taken from the photographer's negatives, it is reasonable to assume that they were marked on the back, and recently digitized images appeared on the internet after 2014, when the posthumous publication copyright term expired. Kges1901 (talk) 20:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Carl Lindberg is not sole in such assumption. But this is just assumption so far, it is not supported by court decisions (of 12-15 post-Soviet states) or jurisprudential literature (as I have known on today, I continue to seek it, to confirm or refute it). As I see such questions in court decisions (of several post-Soviet states) or jurisprudential literature - the concrete Soviet republic is place of publishing (because, the civil legislation was on republican level) or the RF is place of publishing, even if work was published outside of the RSFSR (as USSR-successor on union level). Alex Spade (talk) 10:29, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure there is any test case over the Berne definition of "country of origin". The question would not come up internally for Russian law or that of the old republics, most likely. It would only matter in a country outside those which implement the rule of the shorter term, and over a work which that question may be involved. Not sure I know of any, anywhere. But, the Berne Convention is pretty specific in its definition when it comes to works simultaneously published in multiple countries, and that is the definition that Commons follows. Of course, the Soviet Union was not a member, though most all subsequent countries are now. One complication is the U.S. status -- the definition of "source country" for the URAA would follow different logic than Berne, the country of "greatest contacts with the work", which would be Russia. Russia was 50pma on the URAA date, but I think had some wartime extensions, which I think push these over the line, such that only ones published before 1929 (or created before 1904, if unpublished) would be PD in the U.S., regardless of current status in Russia, or the country of origin (if different). Carl Lindberg (talk) 19:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do not know such cases (on the Berne definition) too, but in the Russian copyright legislation there are 3 criterions of copyrightability - (1) the Russian territory (the territory of the Russian Federation (the RSFSR previously, not the USSR) since Nov.7, 1917 to today) in the borders on the date of publication, (2) the Russian citizenship on the date of publication, and (3) international treaties.
Moreover, there is similar situation with reports of telegraph agencies or press-releases- they are reported/released worldwide formally, but the country indicated in report/release is the country of origin (some reports/releases have two of more indicated countries). Alex Spade (talk) 22:12, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right -- the Berne country of origin pretty much never applies to internal works, or even most situations involving foreign works. The specific definition in Berne pretty much only matters if a country is applying the rule of the shorter term for a foreign work to have lesser protection than their own works normally do; the Berne definition would have to be used in that case to determine the country, since that is in the treaty. In pretty much any other situation, more sensical definitions can be used (which even the US did, with the URAA -- the "source country" there is pretty much the same thing, but differs quite a bit once it comes to simultaneous publication). But however nonsensical it seems, Commons uses the Berne definition, since that should control when works expire in many countries (even if that virtually never comes up in a court case to test it). Carl Lindberg (talk) 01:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another aspect to consider is how publication is defined. For example, in this academic article about Russian copyright law, it is stated that an author, transferring a work to another by agreement, gives consent to publication, and thus the work can be considered published. This means that if Troshkin transferred his negatives to his employer (Izvestiya), the works would be legally considered published. Since all photos in question are of a professional nature, there is no reason to assume that Troshkin kept any of these photographs in his personal possession and did not transfer them to his employer. Considering this, then all of his photos would have been legally published when he transferred them to his employer, that is, definitely before his death in 1944, and all these photographs would be firmly public domain. Kges1901 (talk) 08:13, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Term publication (обнародование or опубликование in Russian, and these are two different term in the Russian copyright) is defined in the paragraph one and two of part 1 of article 1268 of the Civil Code. Consent to publication is not publication (right for exercise of some action is not action). And mentioned resent discussion on the Ru-Wiki for orphan works (where I was the main speaker) does not matter for Troshkin's works - author of photos (Troshkin) is known. Alex Spade (talk) 09:03, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    At the same time if there is a source for original of photo and its reverse side, and such original (reverse side) is marked by author name and a year, then this year can be considered as year of publication according to the last paragraph of article 475 of the Soviet Russian Civil Code. Alex Spade (talk) 09:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • In terms of copyright I am specifically discussing the nuances of обнародование because the term contains a broader meaning than simply опубликование, and the expiration of copyright (if work is posthumously published) is calculated from обнародование and not опубликование of a work – regarding photographs, that public display of a work counts as обнародование while not опубликование in the strict sense, therefore opening broader possibilities for the release of a work during Troshkin's lifetime.
Regarding originals, another aspect is that at least some of Troshkin's photographs were sent into TASS and copyright thus transferred to TASS, falling under PD-Russia under the TASS aspect. For example this photograph was marked on the back with TASS copyright stamp even though Troshkin was an Izvestiya correspondent.
In any case presence of markings on the back is the most hopeful approach to this problem of posthumous copyright since any photograph/negative with a description had to have been marked on the back with a caption and name of the author, since Troshkin's photographs presumably entered into a centralized group of photographs cleared for publication, as his photographs were not just published in Izvestiya, but in Krasnaya Zvezda, Vechernyaya Moskva, other newspapers, and books (for example a large quantity of his photographs taken during the Battle of Khalkhin Gol appeared in this 1940 book without mention of his name. Secondly finding an exact date for negatives such as this example would have been impossible if there was no marking on the back. The fact that exact dates taken are available for negatives indicates that they were also marked in some way with captions, dates and names of author. Examples of such author name and year markings on the back of a Troshkin photograph include [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. Kges1901 (talk) 13:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, обнародование is wider than опубликование, but the fact (and the date) of обнародование must be proved (for example for some painting "This painting was created in 1923 and was shown on ZYX-art exhibition in 1925, see reference link").
  • Yes, if photowork is marked by TASS (no matter by TASS only or by TASS+name_of_real_photograph), this photowork is TASS-work. Alex Spade (talk) 14:56, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Undeletion of individual photographs

Russian department awards

Please, restore deleted Russian department awards and close (as keep) similar current DR. Alex Spade (talk) 09:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closed DR discussions

Current DR discussions

Yes, they are not state awards, but they are state symbols ({{PD-RU-exempt}}) indeed - symbols, which are established by state authorities, which design (including both text description and visual representation) are established (which design are integral part of) in respective official documents of state government agencies (the Russian official documents are not just texts), which are subjects of the en:State Heraldic Register of the Russian Federation (point 3 subpoint 4). Alex Spade (talk) 09:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Question Any opinion about this? Yann (talk) 18:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two ConventionExtension screenshots

These files was speedily deleted as copyright violations. I was originally going to request undeletion on the basis of them being screenshots of free software (i.e., {{MediaWiki screenshot}}); annoyingly, though, the Git repository of the MediaWiki extension that they're screenshots of doesn't appear to contain a license statement of any kind. However, I noticed that the account that uploaded these files (Chughakshay16) is the same account that developed the extension in the first place (see mw:User:Chughakshay16/ConventionExtension, git:mediawiki/extensions/ConventionExtension/+log) - therefore, even if this extension's code isn't freely licensed, Chughakshay16 would nevertheless have the ability and authority to release screenshots of the results of their own programming under a free license (as they did when they uploaded the files in question to Commons); and these freely-licensed screenshots are therefore not copyvios.

At User talk:Moheen#Screenshot of conference extension deleted?, the deleting admin mentioned that the files were tagged as likely belong[ing] to Cisco Webex; however, I didn't see anything that would indicate that Cisco holds a copyright over this extension's code (or that would prohibit the code's author from being able to freely license screenshots of its results).

All the best, --A smart kitten (talk) 11:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Question Any opinion about this? Yann (talk) 18:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:UG-GE Photowalk (March, 2018)

those files deleted as no FoP in Georgia but they are just graffiti. I think that COM:GRAFFITI applies. Template {{Non-free graffiti}} should be added as well. We have a lot's of them in Category:Non-free graffiti. -- Geagea (talk) 13:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Documentation of Template:Non-free graffiti states: "Note that this template doesn't have enough help on the undeletion requests, deleted files are unlikely to be restored just because of the potential application of this tag.". Günther Frager (talk) 18:18, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that's not just because the template. The template is only for information. The deletion rational was no FoP in Georgia. But it is not FoP issue. I linked COM:GRAFFITI and we have a lots of files in Category:Non-free graffiti. -- Geagea (talk) 18:28, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Oppose But Georgia does not have FOP anyway. Also, these are murals by unknown artists, not just text or tags. Thuresson (talk) 18:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So graffiti is a FoP case? If FoP in Georgia will be ok than the graffiti also ok? Aren't they in temporarily exhibition by definition. If they just a case of FoP it's not very clear in COM:GRAFFITI. -- Geagea (talk) 20:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For better or worse, we have allowed photos of illegal graffiti by policy regardless of FoP laws -- but we prefer using the FoP tags, or PD tags, if those apply rather than relying on that rationale. If this looks like "legal graffiti", i.e. murals, then we should not allow it. Carl Lindberg (talk) 23:59, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Каракачански носии од Демир-каписко.png

Along with a few others that have been undeleted, this was also taken from my phone... by me Big ooga booga mf (talk) 10:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup after professional wrestling magazine DRs

Refer to Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by User:Sismarinho, which I initiated last year, and Commons:Deletion requests/Professional wrestling magazines, which I initiated in June and was recently closed.

The five-year rule which dominated discussion of the second DR wasn't clear to me at the time of the first DR. The closing admin deleted everything from those publications whose copyrights were registered without regard for the five-year rule, which was never acknowledged. Since I was still in the dark as a result, the second DR wound up being much larger than it needed to be. Anyway, most everything above appears to have been published prior to fall 1987 based on the dates given in the file, but I have no way of knowing for certain as the files were deleted. I'm guessing the Adrian Adonis photos accompanied a story on his death, which means they were published in 1988 and therefore ineligible for undeletion.
I provided further commentary as I did further research following the initial posting, which showed that this particular issue was published in the U.S. and bore a defective copyright notice. The notice said "All rights reserved by Champion Sports Publishing Corp. 1972". This can be verified here. See my earlier comment about the closing admin going through the motions and not giving it a whole lot of thought.
I checked again, and yes, I should have caught that. Undeleted. I wouldn't have deleted that if those were crossed out. Abzeronow (talk) 01:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I also provided extensive commentary in that DR about the difficulty of determining exact publication dates and how it applies to the 1987 cutoff date for copyright protection. Can we get clarification on that? It's one more thing that I don't believe was given much thought. It would be helpful to the members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling in determining resources available to them for expanding coverage of the topic area. It would also be helpful in correcting the boilerplate text which accompanied the PD templates, which falsely claimed the circumstances under which PD was claimed and resulted in the deletions which did occur. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 19:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The Ole Anderson file illustrates your point. "Fall 1987". I don't feel comfortable restoring it unless we get more specific info on publication. The Adrian Adonis files were published in the 1988 Annual, so those are copyrighted. Abzeronow (talk) 23:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Bmsw-logo-short-rgb-b.jpg

In my opinion the logo of the school was a composition of text and the heraldic symbol of the Kanton of Zurich, which is used in every publication (e.g. https://www.zh.ch/de.html) As I understand it, heraldic symbols of Swiss entities governed by law ("öffentlich-rechtliche Körperschaften") are Public Domain.--Rocky187 (talk) 06:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgarian Parliament files thread 3

Please keep this open (there are still many files to undelete, and Restore A Lot doesn't work on some pages). Abzeronow (talk) 21:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Resolved
Another batch of around 50 tomorrow, please keep open. Abzeronow (talk) 21:47, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will undelete another batch of around 50 tomorrow. Abzeronow (talk) 00:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another batch of around 50 tomorrow. Abzeronow (talk) 21:54, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
More (batch of approx. 50) tomorrow. Abzeronow (talk) 23:32, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More files

More files. Yann (talk) 16:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the assist, Yann. Abzeronow (talk) 00:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
next batch Abzeronow (talk) 00:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
next batch. Abzeronow (talk) 01:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
next batch of around 50. Abzeronow (talk) 20:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Next batch of approximately 50. Abzeronow (talk) 20:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Next batch of 50. Abzeronow (talk) 20:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another batch of approx. 50. Abzeronow (talk) 00:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Even More Files

About 3/4s done. Next batch. Abzeronow (talk) 22:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Mlýnské nábřeží, ruské reklamy.jpg

Arguments against deletion were again not taken into account.

The photo depicts a portable metal board of a travel office, with many similar leaflets containing large color titles in Russian (suppossed to be simple non-literary texts, without sufficiently creative authorship in a general typeface) and illustrative photos of the destinations offered (indistinct due to the proportions in the whole composition and resolution of the photo, apparently De minimis par excellence). The subject of the photograph is the fact that the Bohemian city of Karlovy Vary is partially Russian-language. This is an encyclopedically significant fact and the photos documenting this fact are in scope of Commons.

  • Yann argued "These posters contain a lot of copyrighted material, not only simple text." He ignored the arguments, that the texts (titles of the leaflets) have not sufficiently creative authorship and that the included photos are small, indistinct, de minimis. He did not specify which elements or aspects of the leaflets he considered copyrightable and why he disagree with the contention that the included photographs, given the size, composition, resolution and subject matter of the overall photograph, are "De minimis".
  • Jameslwoodward wrote: "If the posters are de minimis then all we have is a photo of a non-descript doorway which is out of scope." This reasoning does not respond to my arguments. My argument was that the headlines of the leaflets are non-creative PD-Texts, and the photographs contained in the leaflets are "de minimis" in relation to the whole composition and subject of the photography. The composition of individual leaflets also cannot be considered an original creative work either.
  • Jameslwoodward wrote: "If the posters are the subject of the image, then the image infringes on their copyrights." Again, an argument based on a false premise. The subject of the photo is the distinct headings of the leaflets, especially the language used, which is in scope as the subject of the photo. The headings are claimed to be not copyrightable, as simple texts without sufficiently creative authorship, in a general typeface. The only thing that could be copyrightable on those leaflets are the illustrative photos of the destinations, which are so small and indistinct in the overall composition that exactly correspond to the principle "de minimis", par excellence. (Btw., the rack itself could be also in scope.) --ŠJů (talk) 11:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Oppose I don't read the language, but there appear to be enough legible words there to have a copyright in the USA -- which only takes a single sentence or two. Also, many of the photographs are large enough so that they cannot be called de minimis. As I said, there is nothing in this image that is interesting that does not have a copyright as text or photos or both. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:DPAG - Gartenreich Dessau-Wörlitz.jpg

There was a misunderstanding in the DEL disc. was a misunderstanding. The painting was not done by her but by Christian August Günther who died over 200 years ago.6. Absatz Mrs. Heise put the words on it (web image). The painting makes 98 % of the stamp and the words are not art. After restoring, I will clearify the authorship(s). Thanks a lot, --Mateus2019 (talk) 16:55, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mateus2019: There was no “misunderstanding” here, this simply was not mentioned at all in either the image description or the deletion request. After a bit of searching, I found the painting by Günther (which was apparently used to create the stamp) at Artnet here (file). The deleted file showing the stamp is of rather bad quality, there are better versions here and here. If you compare the painting and the stamp closely, you'll see that the stamp does not just show a (cropped) reproduction of Günther's painting, but rather a recreation presumably done by Hannelore Heise. There are subtle differences in colors (like an originally green dress which is now pink) and shapes (look at the shadows of the persons). The recreation is very close though. The question is: Is it that close that the recreation has no creativity at all? In that case we could restore the file. Else not. What do other users here think? --Rosenzweig τ 17:31, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the images Rosenzweig came up with, I tend to fall on the side of "new work is new copyright". It's close, but handwork like that tends to almost always get a new copyright, unlike a photograph, especially when it's distinguishable from the original. This is based on US law; I'm guessing this is German law, and I don't know how that system might rule on it.--Prosfilaes (talk) 18:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Oppose Let's remember that in many countries (and in the USA before Bridgeman) even exact photographic copies have a copyright. I don't think a painted copy of an old master is free of copyright anywhere. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment @Rosenzweig: closing verdict was "per nom". Nom was "Author died in 2021 per d:Q56122240 so will be PD in 2092 per 70 pma (2021+71)" -- so there in fact is truly a misunderstanding. Adding some slight shades to a painting is no biggy, meaning that minor edit does not really create a new threshold of originality. Just wanna point that out, thanks for understanding. Greetz from Munich (LG), --Mateus2019 (talk) 17:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mateus2019, please read my comment above. Even paintings that are exact copies of an old master have copyrights in most countries. In several Eupopean counties, even exact copy photographs have a copyright of their own. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She didnt paint it (copy it) period. She added shadows (according to Rosenzweig) and words and a number (both not in an artistic manner). Greetings, --Mateus2019 (talk) 12:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is not what Rosenzweig said, and I'm sort of confused by what was done. It was clearly retouched in ways not respecting the original author. Nobody has discussed German law specifically, and I'm guessing this might get a copyright in the US, though I can imagine some discussion about the matter from the Copyright Office. "No biggy" doesn't really help, and I can't recall any cases in the US that would be great guidelines.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:18, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment I uploaded the original painting to File:Das Fürstliche Haus zu Wörlitz von der Wasserseite aus.jpg. Yann (talk) 19:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Дмитров1.jpg

Please restore the following pages:

Reason: this may be a test UNDEL case. Deleted through Commons:Deletion requests/File:Дмитров1.jpg, on the grounds that it contained one component image that was a violation of NoFoP-Russia for copyrighted public monuments.

RG72 gave an interesting case though, in 2019–20 concerning a postcard set, one of the constituent postcards contained an image of a monument in Yekaterinburg whose sculptor filed a copyright complaint (see Commons talk:Copyright rules by territory/Russia#NoFoP should be amended). The case reached the Russian Supreme Court, which denied the sculptor's complaint (essentially dismissed), because the involved monument was only depicted in one of the postcards of the set (the set is considered the entire reproduction, and the monument is not the main object of the whole reproduction because it was only depicted in one of the postcards). Perhaps while the original images should stay deleted, the montages or collages where those deleted images were being used should be restored, in light with this slightly-lenient ruling by the Russian court narrowing sculptors' economic rights. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ping other participants of that CRT/Russia talkpage thread @Alexander Davronov@Alex Spade. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Recently (on June 25, 2024) the Yekaterinburg case and some similar cases were subject of trial in the Russian Constitutional Court (the highest court of the RF, higher than the Russian Supreme Court). See discussions in ru-community: 1st+2nd ones on Commons and 1st+2nd ones in Ru-wiki.
In short: the right for usage of copyrighted work for informational and similar purposes (even with some profit earning) without copyrightholder permission granted by article 1274 of the Civil Code of the RF is higher than noncommercial/limited rights granted by part 1 of article 1276. Nevertheless, that is not enough for Commons - article 1274 is the Russian analog of fair use doctrine from the US copyright legislation, which is deprecated on Commons. Alex Spade (talk) 09:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Alex Spade how about the possibility of the montages/collages being lawful based on the court ruling, since the monuments themselves are not the main objects of the collages/montages. Similar analogy to the court ruling itself that concerns a set of postcards, even if one of the postcards unambiguously shows the monument itself as its sole depiction, the entire postcard set is lawful (the monument is not the main object of the entire postcard set) and the sculptor's claims dismissed, if I can understand RG72's comment in the CRT talk page. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 09:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Oppose There is a simple answer to this. We routinely require that each of the individual images in a montage is present on Commons, freely licensed. We do this in order that we can check the copyright status of each image. Obviously, the offending image in a situation like this cannot be present separately on Commons, so we can't keep a montage containing it. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 16:18, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Bakradze (cropped).png

The file is free to use and can be found here on flickr. https://www.flickr.com/photos/eppofficial/25556451760/in/photolist-kLj6vw-tk761z-EWqS9w-EWkuJC-Ffvf24-ErpSfy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zlad! (talk • contribs) 22:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Oppose The Flickr site is owned by the European People's Party. The EXIF credits alohafred as the photographer. Since we have no evidence that the EPP has the right to freely license the image, in order to restore the image we will need a license from alohafred. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Info There is a Belgian professional photographer who use alohafred as a nickname (alohafred.com). Thuresson (talk) 13:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It says that the copyright is CC BY 2.0 Attribution 2.0 Generic. Why should we assume that an organization as highly respected as EPP has no right to license it? Zlad! (talk) 14:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because most organizations, other than those such as libraries that regularly deal with copyright, don't have a clue. They assume that having the right to use an image in their promotional material gives them the right to freely license it. Licenses from professional photographers very rarely allow more than use in promotion. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 21:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, this may need to be dealt with by contacting the photographer directly, however, I do not have the time to do it right now and there already exists good quality pictures of Bakradze on Wikimedia, even if they are older, which can be used for him. Zlad! (talk) 22:09, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PBS logos

Per the discussion at Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2024-09#Files deleted by Taivo, the copyright on the PBS logo has expired. As such, please restore the following files:

Thanks. Ixfd64 (talk) 23:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Косач Микола.jpg

The photo was taken in the Russian Empire, the person in the photo was photographed at a fairly young age, precisely before 1917. According to the template:PD-RusEmpire, it is now in the public domain.--Leonst (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Косач Оксана.jpg

The photo was taken in the Russian Empire, the person in the photo was photographed at a fairly young age, precisely before 1917. According to the template:PD-RusEmpire, it is now in the public domain.--Leonst (talk) 23:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Mohammed Haaji Ibrahim Cigaal.jpg

This file was deleted in 2022. I am requesting that it be undeleted as it is in the public domain. The image is the official presidential portrait taken of Egal in 1993, making it a work of Somaliland. this means the photo can be uploaded under {{PD-Somaliland}} license. thank you --Subayerboombastic (talk) 03:42, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Oppose The listed source, Horseed Media, is a Somali (not Somaliland) entity, so Somali copyright applies and the work is not PD. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:ETVWINLOGO.png

I got approval from etvwin.com, and they told me you could use my logo for my Wikipedia profile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allachandrasekhar (talk • contribs) 08:42, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Allachandrasekhar: Files must have an appropriate license tag, please see Commons:Licensing. Thuresson (talk) 10:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Oppose Note also that "you could use my logo for my Wikipedia profile" is not sufficient. Images here and on WP must be free for any use anywhere by anybody. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images of Vietnamese celebrities

I would like to request undeletion of these images of Vietnamese celebrities, which were tagged as No permission, yet their licenses are compatible with Commons:

and so on and thus need no permission. I already checked the licenses myself before and found no issues as I'm in charge of cleaning up copyright-violated images related to Vietnam and Vietnamese Wikipedia. These images are being used in articles about these celebrities in viwiki. Of course I can manually review them again and nominate those whose licenses are not compatible with Commons for deletion.  Băng Tỏa  13:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Oppose You say, "screenshots from CC YouTube videos, photos taken by uploaders, photos first published on Commons and cannot be found anywhere else on the Internet and so on".

Large requests with multiple reasons are difficult here. Sreenshots from CC YouTube videos are usually derivative of the underlying video so the YouTube license is meaningless unless the YouTube account belongs to the actual copyright holder of the video. I am also very skeptical of {{Own}} claims of images of celebrities. Far too often they are taken from somewhere. That's particularly true if the uploader is a new editor.

I suggest you withdraw this, look hard at the images and their uploaders, and perhaps reopen it in several pieces, each having images that belong to the same type as you laid them out above. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jameslwoodward: Please review a request related to this issue: Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Unusual Deletion of Images of Vietnamese Artists. Thank you. Plantaest (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
May not all, but e.g. File:Tóc Tiên, Trấn Thành và Dương Anh Vũ tại Siêu trí tuệ Việt Nam.jpg and File:Tóc Tiên at the premiere for "Big Girls Don't Cry" music video (2015).JPG seem OK to me: HR with EXIF data, taken with a smartphone. Yann (talk) 14:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Weighted Foreskin Restoration.png

Judging from the DR it seems obvious that the photo is created by the uploader--Trade (talk) 21:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Info Deletion request. As far as I can say File:Foreskin Restoration Weight.jpg is another penis selfie from the same contributor. Thuresson (talk) 23:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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